Tuesday, December 06, 2005

Returning from The New World


We're going to need some kind of support group guys. I'm so sorry.


Nick Davis said...

Hair shirts. Ash. Tears. &c.

JavierAG said...


I hope never to reach acceptance. My eyes have to see this film, NOW.

Anonymous said...

That's the most depressing news I've recieved all year.


tim r said...

God, I just hate to be the messenger on this, I really do. But take heart - one friend I went with loved it. Might not be a bad idea to lower your expectations significantly I'd say, at least for the cut I saw. There's this overall lack of rhythm and conviction which basically defeated me, but if you're forewarned going in you may fare better than I did. I do hope so.

At the very least, Q'Orianka Kilcher is pretty amazing, and I'm going to be defending Farrell too against the oncoming catcalls. I do think the man can act. (Then again, I fell head over heels for him in the widely-ridiculed A Home at the End of the World, so maybe we're just, you know, meant to be together.)

May start working on a long review soon, after I've cracked King Kong this week - there's a lot to say, and my feelings, though ultimately negative-ish, are pretty complicated. But don't feel any obligation to read it! I hope you all get the chance to decide for yourselves soon, and that it shapes up better for you guys.


Dr. S said...

Oh no! As soon as I saw the face, I knew that some of my most favorite people (you know who you are) would be rending: rending their clothing, their hair, themselves, you name it. Damn. And just when the "For your consideration" ads have gone up in the NYTimes online.

Ginger said...

Oh, Tim ... what a sad, sad day. I, too, have seen "The New World." There is so much to be said that it's almost not worth saying any of it. However, as one who was never entirely convinced by Malick's last film, I was not surprised by the excesses and self-indulgence of his latest. It's as if all the big red flags present in "The Thin Red Line" blossomed into tremendous narrative and visual fissures in "The New World."

The two leads are fine. Well, better than fine. (But I still think you're too besotted with Farrell-- "A Home at the End of the World" is a terrible, incompetent film.) Alas, in such a bloviated exercise, great acting is not enough.

tim r said...

You'll get a heck of a Thin Red Line defence out of me if you want one - it's my favourite film! But Malick was walking a very thin line himself there (that's precisely what makes the movie so exhilarating, I'd argue) and here he tumbles off it more often than toeing it.

As for AHATEOTW (appropriately ugly acronym, no?) I can't deny that it's terribly flawed. But something about the bungled soapiness of the thing made it a guilty pleasure for this viewer. And I liked all three leads in it quite a lot, I must say.

Speaking of line-walking, that Dallas Roberts has the single best scene in the Joaquin-and-Reese show, doesn't he? As Sam Phillips. It's typical of the movie that he then drops out of it entirely: it's got to be all Johnny and June, all the time, and there's no room at the inn for anyone else. I really thought he did a terrific job with that scene.

Ginger said...

I like "The Thin Red Line" quite a lot. You're right. Malick walks the thinnest of lines with that one and mostly, somehow, succeeds. That film was full of intimations of what might be in future, though. Which "The New World" fulfills.

So have you just given away your number one pick??!! I hope not.

All I can say is... you have it B-A-D for Colin Farrell!
Perhaps "AHATEOTW" simply summons up the hardcore feminist in me. Its depiction of women in general is unsophisticated at best, utterly lacking in insight at worst. That wasn't necessarily true of the source material. There is something so awful about the way Robin Wright Penn is photographed in the film and the way in which her most hysterical takes are used; a hands-off-crazy-bitch quality about it all that reminds me of late 60's-type queeny-ness. You know, the kind of guys who used to call women "fish." Well, Michael Mayer's entire film seemed like one giant step backwards into that territory.

Dallas Roberts is adorable. Always. He seems to have the film career I have wished for David Hyde Pierce.

My horrendous guilty pleasure of the moment is Spike Lee's jaw-droppingly clueless "She Hate Me." As always, I have to admire his blistering honesty, even when it makes him look bad.

Nick Davis said...

I have to agree with Ginger on A Home at the End of the World, though I just spent the morning crying sympathetically through The Notebook, so those slings and arrows of dubious affection will stick to me, too. I'll take Gosling and McAdams in that movie over Farrell and Wright Penn in anything.

Nick Davis said...

Oh, God. I just turned a discussion of Malick into a mash note to The Notebook. Tim, defy your instincts and keep speaking to me, please!

tim r said...

This is turning into a three-way skeleton-in-the-movie-closet show-and-tell. I like it! And I adored both leads in The Notebook. But She Hate Me?! Fascinating only for its sheer loathsomeness, surely. I'm not convinced I needed to know Spike Lee's innermost thoughts about What Lesbians Want, and I really wish I could purge them from my system now. But I can't. That movie hangs about in the air like a rancid fart: it's just appalling.

ModFab said...

The Notebook? Oh, Nick...I'm so ashamed. For you, I mean. ;-)

Sadly, Tim is right. Just got back from seeing THE NEW WORLD, and it's a bit ole' stinker. Review coming soon.

Nick Davis said...

I, like Mr. Chips, will do anything for my students, one of whom, bless her, is writing her term paper on The Notebook. NOW don't you feel bad, Gabriel?

(As if I needed an excuse to watch a movie with Joan Allen in it. Plus, now I'm all caught up on the Whole Rachel McAdams Thing that is sweeping pop movie culture.)

Ginger said...

Loathesome is the only word that'll do for "She Hate Me." Indeed. However ... Lee wears his misogyny on his sleeve. Which in the US film business is admirable. Unlike Ridley Scott, Mike Figgis and Nick Cassevettes-- Closet Misogynists All.

"The Notebook" I watched solely for Ryan Gosling and regretted every second spent doing so. I fear he's going to turn into the next generation's Ed Norton. The kind of actor who unjustly gets burdened with the "smart" label and spends the rest of his career actually believing it.

I don't get Rachel McAdams. Cute, bland and ... well, that's it for me.

I think we should begin a thread devoted entirely to horrendous Guilty Pleasure viewings.

Whaddya say, boys?

tim r said...

That's a fab idea. I'll institute it forthwith...